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	<title>Comments on: Who will cut small-business taxes?</title>
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		<title>By: Kim Cox, Garland Texas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kim Cox, Garland Texas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 03:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The rich already pay the majority of taxes in this country. We need to stop arguing about taxes and start standing up to our government for the wrong chioces they continue to make. We need to stop holding the rich responsible, stop looking to them for more money. Let&#039;s go after the government as a people should. Let&#039;s unite and hold them responsible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The rich already pay the majority of taxes in this country. We need to stop arguing about taxes and start standing up to our government for the wrong chioces they continue to make. We need to stop holding the rich responsible, stop looking to them for more money. Let&#039;s go after the government as a people should. Let&#039;s unite and hold them responsible.</p>
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		<title>By: greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The article is based on false beliefs to hide the truth. Just recently it was reported that over 50pct of businesses don&#039;t pay taxes (because they&#039;re not making money) so of course the majority will not be taxed more because they&#039;re already paying ZERO. BUT of those who DO make a profit the percentage that would be affected will be much higher.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The article is based on false beliefs to hide the truth. Just recently it was reported that over 50pct of businesses don&#039;t pay taxes (because they&#039;re not making money) so of course the majority will not be taxed more because they&#039;re already paying ZERO. BUT of those who DO make a profit the percentage that would be affected will be much higher.</p>
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		<title>By: Lori, shepherdstown wv</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lori, shepherdstown wv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 02:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fair share??  We work our butts off for what we have.  Why should I share that with you??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair share??  We work our butts off for what we have.  Why should I share that with you??</p>
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		<title>By: David Dagenais, Milton, DE</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Dagenais, Milton, DE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 15:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Either John McCain understands what Obama is saying and is lying or he does not know, which would indicate just how out of touch he is. Noe surrogates here; either McCain is honest or he is not. He is the &quot;here&quot; when the &quot;buck stops here,&quot; if he wants to be our leader.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Either John McCain understands what Obama is saying and is lying or he does not know, which would indicate just how out of touch he is. Noe surrogates here; either McCain is honest or he is not. He is the &#034;here&#034; when the &#034;buck stops here,&#034; if he wants to be our leader.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Sorensen, Minnetonka, MN</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Sorensen, Minnetonka, MN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:46:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Real quickly... you make over $250000 and are in a higher tax bracket.  What&#039;s the problem?  You can still make $260000., then. You can still make $270000.  You are extremely lucky to be able to have such a fortune.  Yet, it&#039;s not enough.  Why not make more?  You can.  You do.  You make $280000.  Hmmm... are you really going to be hurting if you are in a higher tax bracket?   Sure, maybe you wont be able to afford both the Benz and the Cabin Cruiser and the lawn service.  My heart bleeds for your suffering.  NOT.  Quit your moaning and suck up your fair share.  Paul S.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Real quickly&#8230; you make over $250000 and are in a higher tax bracket.  What&#039;s the problem?  You can still make $260000., then. You can still make $270000.  You are extremely lucky to be able to have such a fortune.  Yet, it&#039;s not enough.  Why not make more?  You can.  You do.  You make $280000.  Hmmm&#8230; are you really going to be hurting if you are in a higher tax bracket?   Sure, maybe you wont be able to afford both the Benz and the Cabin Cruiser and the lawn service.  My heart bleeds for your suffering.  NOT.  Quit your moaning and suck up your fair share.  Paul S.</p>
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		<title>By: JimmyD</title>
		<link>http://fsbfeatures.blogs.fsb.cnn.com/2008/09/08/who-will-cut-small-business-taxes/#comment-12152</link>
		<dc:creator>JimmyD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 11:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a small business. I am classified as an &quot;s&quot; corporation, one that is never mentioned in all the discussions. At the end of the year, all of my business income is put on my personal tax return. I always pay over $100,000 in taxes a year and feel like I more than pay my fair share for this great country we live in. After paying this amount, it is hard for me to save money as it is. I have 12 employees that I am responsible for and now do not want to grow the business if it means that I am only going to have to pay for more taxes. Obama has always talked about McCains tax breaks for the rich oil companies. My accountant told me that they pay over 50% of their profits to taxes as it stands today. They are paying their &quot;fair share&quot; in to todays economy as I am. It&#039;s the citizens who pay no taxes or very little taxes who are receiving a tax break under Obamas plan. What&#039;s wrong with this picture? If you give a small business incentive to grow, it will grow. If you take these incentives away, it will either become stagnant or die. This is really very simple and very true - why can&#039;t the DEMS understand this principal. If they did, I would support them. I would bet that there are many other &quot;S&quot; corporations that will be hurt in Obamas new tax plan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a small business. I am classified as an &#034;s&#034; corporation, one that is never mentioned in all the discussions. At the end of the year, all of my business income is put on my personal tax return. I always pay over $100,000 in taxes a year and feel like I more than pay my fair share for this great country we live in. After paying this amount, it is hard for me to save money as it is. I have 12 employees that I am responsible for and now do not want to grow the business if it means that I am only going to have to pay for more taxes. Obama has always talked about McCains tax breaks for the rich oil companies. My accountant told me that they pay over 50% of their profits to taxes as it stands today. They are paying their &#034;fair share&#034; in to todays economy as I am. It&#039;s the citizens who pay no taxes or very little taxes who are receiving a tax break under Obamas plan. What&#039;s wrong with this picture? If you give a small business incentive to grow, it will grow. If you take these incentives away, it will either become stagnant or die. This is really very simple and very true &#8211; why can&#039;t the DEMS understand this principal. If they did, I would support them. I would bet that there are many other &#034;S&#034; corporations that will be hurt in Obamas new tax plan.</p>
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		<title>By: Andreas, Kennesaw, GA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andreas, Kennesaw, GA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 21:58:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a small business owner and just spent the last hour reading everybody&#039;s comments.  Everybody makes really good points, but nobody really talks about the current state.  We, as a society, have spent WAY more money than we bring in (check out Bush&#039;s last 8 years).  The deficit is out of control and some how, some way, we have to keep it in check.  Yes, spending less money makes sense, but since we know that won&#039;t happen (no matter who gets elected), we have to figure out a way to bring in more.  Of course I do not want to get taxed more, but if I ran my business like the country (spend twice the money you actually earn), then I would have been out of business a long time ago.  Does nobody understand that?  Seems obvious and yes, it may hurt a bit.  Maybe we should have thought of that before we DOUBLED the deficit since 2000.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a small business owner and just spent the last hour reading everybody&#039;s comments.  Everybody makes really good points, but nobody really talks about the current state.  We, as a society, have spent WAY more money than we bring in (check out Bush&#039;s last 8 years).  The deficit is out of control and some how, some way, we have to keep it in check.  Yes, spending less money makes sense, but since we know that won&#039;t happen (no matter who gets elected), we have to figure out a way to bring in more.  Of course I do not want to get taxed more, but if I ran my business like the country (spend twice the money you actually earn), then I would have been out of business a long time ago.  Does nobody understand that?  Seems obvious and yes, it may hurt a bit.  Maybe we should have thought of that before we DOUBLED the deficit since 2000.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Brannan, Beardstown, IL</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Brannan, Beardstown, IL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 16:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone, and it will not be either of the candidates, nor our current representatives, must recognize, we as a nation are living beyond our means.  Our national debt is growing expotentially.  The fact is, our country is broke, and no one will admit it or fess up to the truth.

In Illinois alone, the state has Forty Four Billion ($44,000,000,000) of unfunded liability for pensions.  The state does not even have the money to pay pharmacists for drugs they are providing to those on public aid or medicaid.  And yet, the legislators (from both parties) want to talk about expanded &quot;benefits&quot;.... Who is going to pay?  Right now if China sold all of the bonds it has bought from the United States the bond market would go through an upheaval, just like the housing market has, and the stock market.

Our Governments are irresponsible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone, and it will not be either of the candidates, nor our current representatives, must recognize, we as a nation are living beyond our means.  Our national debt is growing expotentially.  The fact is, our country is broke, and no one will admit it or fess up to the truth.</p>
<p>In Illinois alone, the state has Forty Four Billion ($44,000,000,000) of unfunded liability for pensions.  The state does not even have the money to pay pharmacists for drugs they are providing to those on public aid or medicaid.  And yet, the legislators (from both parties) want to talk about expanded &#034;benefits&#034;&#8230;. Who is going to pay?  Right now if China sold all of the bonds it has bought from the United States the bond market would go through an upheaval, just like the housing market has, and the stock market.</p>
<p>Our Governments are irresponsible.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike, Florida</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike, Florida</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 16:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Under Obama, I would get a small income tax reduction.  However, I will pay a new carbon tax on my electricity, fuel and transportation cost.  I will pay more for both US and foreign made products because of higher business tax. My investment gains will be taxed higher, health care cost will rise and quality deteriorate.  I suspect that a value added tax (VAT) will appear to make up the shortfall as well.  Overall, my minor income tax cut is going to cost me a LOT! I can&#039;t afford a tax cut.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Under Obama, I would get a small income tax reduction.  However, I will pay a new carbon tax on my electricity, fuel and transportation cost.  I will pay more for both US and foreign made products because of higher business tax. My investment gains will be taxed higher, health care cost will rise and quality deteriorate.  I suspect that a value added tax (VAT) will appear to make up the shortfall as well.  Overall, my minor income tax cut is going to cost me a LOT! I can&#039;t afford a tax cut.</p>
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		<title>By: eldon reno nv</title>
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		<dc:creator>eldon reno nv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 12:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I don&#039;t get is why people freak out whenever they hear tax increase without even knowing how much of an increase, nor how much that increase will effect them, I mean think about, your company gross&#039;s a certain amount of money, well how much of that money do you keep as your personal income tax? And also this tax increase isn&#039;t just on &quot;small&quot; business&#039;s it is also on people who make over 250,000 a year, but with the way taxes work it isn&#039;t a percentage of your entire income, it is only a percentage of the top portion of that tax bracket, so the 33% bracket would pay 33% of 160,000 for single and 190,000 for a couple, so if you make OVER 250,000 you still get to keep a very large portion of your money. And the whole paying more taxes the more you make doesn&#039;t just apply to the people who are considered by some to be &quot;rich&quot; even if you make 25,000 a year, once you move to 30,000 you have to pay more taxes, that is just how taxation works, get over it, without taxes we wouldn&#039;t be able to have freedom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I don&#039;t get is why people freak out whenever they hear tax increase without even knowing how much of an increase, nor how much that increase will effect them, I mean think about, your company gross&#039;s a certain amount of money, well how much of that money do you keep as your personal income tax? And also this tax increase isn&#039;t just on &#034;small&#034; business&#039;s it is also on people who make over 250,000 a year, but with the way taxes work it isn&#039;t a percentage of your entire income, it is only a percentage of the top portion of that tax bracket, so the 33% bracket would pay 33% of 160,000 for single and 190,000 for a couple, so if you make OVER 250,000 you still get to keep a very large portion of your money. And the whole paying more taxes the more you make doesn&#039;t just apply to the people who are considered by some to be &#034;rich&#034; even if you make 25,000 a year, once you move to 30,000 you have to pay more taxes, that is just how taxation works, get over it, without taxes we wouldn&#039;t be able to have freedom.</p>
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		<title>By: S. Shah Brea, CA</title>
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		<dc:creator>S. Shah Brea, CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 12:24:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is not clear if Obama wants to distribute the tax money collected from one group of tax payers (the &quot;Rich&quot;) and give to those who do not earn enough. Why does he not say that clearly? If it is true, I would like to know. The media does not want to clarify that either!

Collecting more tax is debatable. Distributing it to others is new to America!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is not clear if Obama wants to distribute the tax money collected from one group of tax payers (the &#034;Rich&#034;) and give to those who do not earn enough. Why does he not say that clearly? If it is true, I would like to know. The media does not want to clarify that either!</p>
<p>Collecting more tax is debatable. Distributing it to others is new to America!</p>
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		<title>By: Lindsey, Birmingham, AL</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lindsey, Birmingham, AL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 04:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Michael in Kansas City, MO... Why should people who work hard to make their money have to pay more taxes... Especially when these taxes are to &quot;redistribute the wealth&quot; to all the people who aren&#039;t working??? Its RIDICULOUS. I don&#039;t want my hard earned money going to the lazy citizens of the US who would rather live in free housing, eat free food (thanks to food stamps), &amp; collect a free check each month than getting their own job. The US Democrats pat the lazy on the back &amp; hand them everything they need to survive. I must say ITS A GREAT WAY TO GET VOTES.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Michael in Kansas City, MO&#8230; Why should people who work hard to make their money have to pay more taxes&#8230; Especially when these taxes are to &#034;redistribute the wealth&#034; to all the people who aren&#039;t working??? Its RIDICULOUS. I don&#039;t want my hard earned money going to the lazy citizens of the US who would rather live in free housing, eat free food (thanks to food stamps), &amp; collect a free check each month than getting their own job. The US Democrats pat the lazy on the back &amp; hand them everything they need to survive. I must say ITS A GREAT WAY TO GET VOTES.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael, Kansas city, MO</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael, Kansas city, MO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:43:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish my taxes were higher. You may ask why.  Because I would be making more money.  Hello? Anyone paying attention?
If you make more money you pay more taxes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish my taxes were higher. You may ask why.  Because I would be making more money.  Hello? Anyone paying attention?<br />
If you make more money you pay more taxes.</p>
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		<title>By: Glen, Buffalo NY</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glen, Buffalo NY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 04:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The first comment was by a gentlmen who runs a small business that grossed 7 million a year. The company has 30 hardworking, talented, and loyal employess. The only ones who would see a tax increase would maybe be the top three, and then the rest of them would get a tax cut. Im guessing that most of them would spend about all there tax cut at businesses like mine. Of course we all know consumer spending drives our economy. Im planning to be one of those companys that grosses over 7 million and Obama or no one else is going to slow me down. Specialy not because of a few percent more tax. If taxes were a major concern as a business owner I wouldnt be in NY.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first comment was by a gentlmen who runs a small business that grossed 7 million a year. The company has 30 hardworking, talented, and loyal employess. The only ones who would see a tax increase would maybe be the top three, and then the rest of them would get a tax cut. Im guessing that most of them would spend about all there tax cut at businesses like mine. Of course we all know consumer spending drives our economy. Im planning to be one of those companys that grosses over 7 million and Obama or no one else is going to slow me down. Specialy not because of a few percent more tax. If taxes were a major concern as a business owner I wouldnt be in NY.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Yates, Charlottesville, VA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Yates, Charlottesville, VA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am fed up with all the nonsense discussion about why it’s the “patriotic duty” of wealthy Americans to pay more in taxes to “spread the wealth around,” or how increasing taxes on small business owners who net more than $250k a year will somehow help the middle class.

I am a small business owner whose company nets more than $250k – not a one or two person non-employer small business owner who doesn’t create jobs and who is typically quoted as supporting Obama – but a growing, successful 30 person company grossing $7 million in revenues that I and my team of dedicated, talented, hard working and loyal employees have built from literally nothing starting nearly 20 years ago.  To this day, we have not accepted even a single penny of outside investment – our entire strategy is to leave any profits in the company to provide working capital and fuel business expansion, ultimately leading to the creation of yet more jobs and an exponentially higher tax base.  Even in this terrible economy, we have grown our staff 15% over the past six months, with good, high-paying jobs with a progressive benefits package.

Yes, I am one of the “wealthy Americans” and “well-off small business owners” that Obama likes to vilify and that the public seems to be making a mistaken lightning rod for their anger at this financial mess.  Yet I am no Wall Street fat cat, no abusive CEO with a huge golden parachute.  I am a regular guy – a mainstream small business owner who really is creating jobs and is really having positive economic impact in this terrible environment.  I would rather cash in my retirement savings, mortgage my house, take out massive loans, or forego my own paycheck (for quarters at a time) than not make payroll and pay my employees everything they have earned on time.  Believe me, over nearly 20  years these have all happened!  I drive 10 year old cars, spend almost nothing on luxuries and live modestly.  My goal is to grow my company to the point that it is an attractive acquisition target, sell it, and meaningfully share in the benefits with my incredible team.  

Here’s the crux of my frustration.  Everyone – the Obama camp, the media, the public – seemingly everyone is talking about how it’s a good idea to increase taxes on small business owners netting more than $250k in profits.  The argument goes like this:  The business owner gets to pocket $250k in profits, and how much does he really need?  What harm does it do for him to forego just an extra 10% of so of that take-home for the greater good of the beleaguered middle class?  He still has over $200k in his pocket after all, while the middle class gets less and less!

On the surface this is hard to argue, and if it were only true I’d happily go along too.  But nothing could be further from the truth, and there is a fundamental misunderstanding that is giving rise to this entire mistaken line of reasoning.  I have found in my own company that people simply haven’t been informed about the realities of a growing small business, and when they are, they see the fallacies and hollowness of the “spread the wealth” arguments.

Sure, many non-employer single person businesses (the 98% majority of “small businesses” netting under $250k that Obama is targeting for his hollow “tax benefits”) do run their companies as cash cow operations for the immediate and direct personal benefit of the owner.  The owners of these companies largely do pocket the profits, as they are small service companies with no real need to build large reserves of working capital, inventory financing, new product R&amp;D, and so on.  But the US Census Bureau shows that these non-employer small businesses generate only 1/20th of the economic impact and jobs creation of the larger, growth oriented small businesses like mine.

Here’s the key point:  And any small business like mine that has a goal of growth (actually creating good jobs along the way) has to leave those net profits in the company to fuel that growth and job creation.  A growth oriented small business is NOT a cash cow for the immediate benefit of the owner, and the business owner does NOT “take home” the net profits the business is making.  That is precisely where the “share the wealth” argument falls apart.  This is a subtle, misunderstood, yet unbelievably important distinction that Obama doesn’t seem to grasp.  Even Obama’s website mistakenly calls the &gt;$250k in small business profits he is targeting “take home.”

Let me illustrate the fallacies in the “tax the small business owner” argument.

First, let’s consider a company like mine that is grossing $7M of revenues a year.  That means each month we bill customers on average $583k.  In today’s economy, every customer pays us late – on average 45-60 days on Net 30 terms. That means to simply float the credit I am extending to my customers, I need about $1 Million in cash (“working capital”) to pay employees and vendors who provided the goods or services sold to customers.  That working capital is real cash that has to come from somewhere.  The easiest and quickest way for me to raise that cash is to earn it from net profits.  But under Obama (considering the 39.6% passthrough S corporation tax and limitless payroll tax he is proposing), nearly 45% of the net profits go to taxes despite the fact I don’t pocket them.  That means to get $1M of working capital from the easiest source of capital I have (my own profits), I’d have to generate $1.82M of before-tax profits.  Out of that $1.82M, $820k would go to Obama’s “tax the wealthy” plan and the other $1M would stay in my company.  

Think about it – that $1M in working capital retained from my company’s own money cost me $820k – that’s an annual percentage rate of 45%!  If I got that same working capital from a bank, it might cost me 7% APR.  But if I want to do the responsible thing, avoid debt and reinvest my own profits to fund my working capital needs, Obama’s tax plan makes it OVER SIX TIMES more expensive!  If a small business lender were charging 45% APR to creditworthy companies, Obama and his liberal cohorts would be investigating them for predatory lending!  But this is exactly what Obama’s tax plan means to growing small businesses, and it will be our own US government taking the role of “preditory lender,” folks!  With bank loans costing only 1/6th as much as the privilege of using my own profits, Obama’s plan only serves to even more deeply entrench a pattern of chronic  small businesses debt – and since debt was a major factor driving the recent meltdown, is this really a good idea?

Oh, and to generate $1.82M of before-tax profits, I&#039;d need $18M-$36M of revenues (remember, I am only at 7).  Obama&#039;s fuzzy math just doesn&#039;t compute, and it makes it IMPOSSIBLE for small businesses like mine to fuel their own growth!

Second, a financially strong small business is defined as one making a net profit of 5-10% of revenues, before taxes.  Obama’s plan would mean after-tax profits are around 3-5% of revenues - and this is best case, for a “strong” company.  If my goal is to grow my company in a financially responsible way – funded out of my own profits – then that means I cannot grow it faster than 3-5% a year, best case.  Folks, that is razor thin, and 3-5% is just one product recall, one lawsuit, one financial meltdown away from negative growth.  Such a low after-tax profit caps how many new jobs I can create and how quickly I can add to the positive economic impact my company is having to 3-5% a year, best case.  The whole system is stacked against the financially responsible self-funded strategy of small business growth and forces many companies to seek outside investment – from investors who are increasingly resistant and who frequently don’t act in the best long-term interests of the company or the economy as a whole.

Third, Obama’s tax arguments are based on the mistaken assumption that all of today’s &gt;$250k small business profits would remain eligible for his highest two personal tax brackets.  If Obama is elected, I will most definitely take perfectly legal and fully defendable actions to remove myself and my company from this punishing taxation level, so that I can continue responsible growth and job creation so that I can achieve my goals of a company sale down the road.  Specifically, I will convert my company from an S-corporation to a C-corporation, whose profits are taxed at a much lower rate than Obama’s proposed new plan, and do not pass through to my personal 1040.  What that means, folks, is that the new tax revenues Obama projects he’ll generate will never be realized.  Under the current 33% top personal tax bracket, it doesn’t make sense for me to switch my company to a C-corporation with all the hassles that are involved.  But under Obama’s plan, a C-corporation is by far the better choice, and I will make the switch.  I’d be foolish not to.  His plan simply doesn’t take this into account.  Just like Canada and the EU are planning “what if” scenarios if Obama is elected, so too are US small business like mine making similar analyses right now.  It won’t be pretty if it really becomes necessary to put these plans into action, folks.

Lastly, if all a healthy and dynamic growing “employer” type of small business can only generate is 3% after tax profits under Obama, some are going to ask the uncomfortable question “why bother?”.  I can get 3% from a CD today, without all the huge headaches and risks of running a small business, and I could spend far more time with my wife and kids.  If this option is more viable, I’d be foolish not to consider it.  This is what many people don’t realize – 3% best case net profits from a small business is far less than alternative ways the owner could put the investment they have on the line to use, and simply isn’t commensurate with the hair-raising levels of risk and sacrifice they routinely subject themselves to.  If it becomes not cost effective for small businesses like mine to exist, many will cease to.  That will have a devastating impact on the economy.

Bottom line, the “tax the wealthy small business owners” and “spread the wealth” arguments are just more in a long line of simple-minded answers to very complex issues that is the hallmark of the left.  These hollow and misdirected arguments are supported on emotion combined with some catchy sound bytes and strung together snippets of out-of-context statistics, and are being sold to a public that is well intended but ultimately doesn’t have any real understanding small business.  But when you really look at the facts, these proposals are exactly the opposite of what small businesses really need to be successful – reduction in the tax rate on net profits reinvested in the company, not massive increases.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am fed up with all the nonsense discussion about why it’s the “patriotic duty” of wealthy Americans to pay more in taxes to “spread the wealth around,” or how increasing taxes on small business owners who net more than $250k a year will somehow help the middle class.</p>
<p>I am a small business owner whose company nets more than $250k – not a one or two person non-employer small business owner who doesn’t create jobs and who is typically quoted as supporting Obama – but a growing, successful 30 person company grossing $7 million in revenues that I and my team of dedicated, talented, hard working and loyal employees have built from literally nothing starting nearly 20 years ago.  To this day, we have not accepted even a single penny of outside investment – our entire strategy is to leave any profits in the company to provide working capital and fuel business expansion, ultimately leading to the creation of yet more jobs and an exponentially higher tax base.  Even in this terrible economy, we have grown our staff 15% over the past six months, with good, high-paying jobs with a progressive benefits package.</p>
<p>Yes, I am one of the “wealthy Americans” and “well-off small business owners” that Obama likes to vilify and that the public seems to be making a mistaken lightning rod for their anger at this financial mess.  Yet I am no Wall Street fat cat, no abusive CEO with a huge golden parachute.  I am a regular guy – a mainstream small business owner who really is creating jobs and is really having positive economic impact in this terrible environment.  I would rather cash in my retirement savings, mortgage my house, take out massive loans, or forego my own paycheck (for quarters at a time) than not make payroll and pay my employees everything they have earned on time.  Believe me, over nearly 20  years these have all happened!  I drive 10 year old cars, spend almost nothing on luxuries and live modestly.  My goal is to grow my company to the point that it is an attractive acquisition target, sell it, and meaningfully share in the benefits with my incredible team.  </p>
<p>Here’s the crux of my frustration.  Everyone – the Obama camp, the media, the public – seemingly everyone is talking about how it’s a good idea to increase taxes on small business owners netting more than $250k in profits.  The argument goes like this:  The business owner gets to pocket $250k in profits, and how much does he really need?  What harm does it do for him to forego just an extra 10% of so of that take-home for the greater good of the beleaguered middle class?  He still has over $200k in his pocket after all, while the middle class gets less and less!</p>
<p>On the surface this is hard to argue, and if it were only true I’d happily go along too.  But nothing could be further from the truth, and there is a fundamental misunderstanding that is giving rise to this entire mistaken line of reasoning.  I have found in my own company that people simply haven’t been informed about the realities of a growing small business, and when they are, they see the fallacies and hollowness of the “spread the wealth” arguments.</p>
<p>Sure, many non-employer single person businesses (the 98% majority of “small businesses” netting under $250k that Obama is targeting for his hollow “tax benefits”) do run their companies as cash cow operations for the immediate and direct personal benefit of the owner.  The owners of these companies largely do pocket the profits, as they are small service companies with no real need to build large reserves of working capital, inventory financing, new product R&amp;D, and so on.  But the US Census Bureau shows that these non-employer small businesses generate only 1/20th of the economic impact and jobs creation of the larger, growth oriented small businesses like mine.</p>
<p>Here’s the key point:  And any small business like mine that has a goal of growth (actually creating good jobs along the way) has to leave those net profits in the company to fuel that growth and job creation.  A growth oriented small business is NOT a cash cow for the immediate benefit of the owner, and the business owner does NOT “take home” the net profits the business is making.  That is precisely where the “share the wealth” argument falls apart.  This is a subtle, misunderstood, yet unbelievably important distinction that Obama doesn’t seem to grasp.  Even Obama’s website mistakenly calls the &gt;$250k in small business profits he is targeting “take home.”</p>
<p>Let me illustrate the fallacies in the “tax the small business owner” argument.</p>
<p>First, let’s consider a company like mine that is grossing $7M of revenues a year.  That means each month we bill customers on average $583k.  In today’s economy, every customer pays us late – on average 45-60 days on Net 30 terms. That means to simply float the credit I am extending to my customers, I need about $1 Million in cash (“working capital”) to pay employees and vendors who provided the goods or services sold to customers.  That working capital is real cash that has to come from somewhere.  The easiest and quickest way for me to raise that cash is to earn it from net profits.  But under Obama (considering the 39.6% passthrough S corporation tax and limitless payroll tax he is proposing), nearly 45% of the net profits go to taxes despite the fact I don’t pocket them.  That means to get $1M of working capital from the easiest source of capital I have (my own profits), I’d have to generate $1.82M of before-tax profits.  Out of that $1.82M, $820k would go to Obama’s “tax the wealthy” plan and the other $1M would stay in my company.  </p>
<p>Think about it – that $1M in working capital retained from my company’s own money cost me $820k – that’s an annual percentage rate of 45%!  If I got that same working capital from a bank, it might cost me 7% APR.  But if I want to do the responsible thing, avoid debt and reinvest my own profits to fund my working capital needs, Obama’s tax plan makes it OVER SIX TIMES more expensive!  If a small business lender were charging 45% APR to creditworthy companies, Obama and his liberal cohorts would be investigating them for predatory lending!  But this is exactly what Obama’s tax plan means to growing small businesses, and it will be our own US government taking the role of “preditory lender,” folks!  With bank loans costing only 1/6th as much as the privilege of using my own profits, Obama’s plan only serves to even more deeply entrench a pattern of chronic  small businesses debt – and since debt was a major factor driving the recent meltdown, is this really a good idea?</p>
<p>Oh, and to generate $1.82M of before-tax profits, I&#039;d need $18M-$36M of revenues (remember, I am only at 7).  Obama&#039;s fuzzy math just doesn&#039;t compute, and it makes it IMPOSSIBLE for small businesses like mine to fuel their own growth!</p>
<p>Second, a financially strong small business is defined as one making a net profit of 5-10% of revenues, before taxes.  Obama’s plan would mean after-tax profits are around 3-5% of revenues &#8211; and this is best case, for a “strong” company.  If my goal is to grow my company in a financially responsible way – funded out of my own profits – then that means I cannot grow it faster than 3-5% a year, best case.  Folks, that is razor thin, and 3-5% is just one product recall, one lawsuit, one financial meltdown away from negative growth.  Such a low after-tax profit caps how many new jobs I can create and how quickly I can add to the positive economic impact my company is having to 3-5% a year, best case.  The whole system is stacked against the financially responsible self-funded strategy of small business growth and forces many companies to seek outside investment – from investors who are increasingly resistant and who frequently don’t act in the best long-term interests of the company or the economy as a whole.</p>
<p>Third, Obama’s tax arguments are based on the mistaken assumption that all of today’s &gt;$250k small business profits would remain eligible for his highest two personal tax brackets.  If Obama is elected, I will most definitely take perfectly legal and fully defendable actions to remove myself and my company from this punishing taxation level, so that I can continue responsible growth and job creation so that I can achieve my goals of a company sale down the road.  Specifically, I will convert my company from an S-corporation to a C-corporation, whose profits are taxed at a much lower rate than Obama’s proposed new plan, and do not pass through to my personal 1040.  What that means, folks, is that the new tax revenues Obama projects he’ll generate will never be realized.  Under the current 33% top personal tax bracket, it doesn’t make sense for me to switch my company to a C-corporation with all the hassles that are involved.  But under Obama’s plan, a C-corporation is by far the better choice, and I will make the switch.  I’d be foolish not to.  His plan simply doesn’t take this into account.  Just like Canada and the EU are planning “what if” scenarios if Obama is elected, so too are US small business like mine making similar analyses right now.  It won’t be pretty if it really becomes necessary to put these plans into action, folks.</p>
<p>Lastly, if all a healthy and dynamic growing “employer” type of small business can only generate is 3% after tax profits under Obama, some are going to ask the uncomfortable question “why bother?”.  I can get 3% from a CD today, without all the huge headaches and risks of running a small business, and I could spend far more time with my wife and kids.  If this option is more viable, I’d be foolish not to consider it.  This is what many people don’t realize – 3% best case net profits from a small business is far less than alternative ways the owner could put the investment they have on the line to use, and simply isn’t commensurate with the hair-raising levels of risk and sacrifice they routinely subject themselves to.  If it becomes not cost effective for small businesses like mine to exist, many will cease to.  That will have a devastating impact on the economy.</p>
<p>Bottom line, the “tax the wealthy small business owners” and “spread the wealth” arguments are just more in a long line of simple-minded answers to very complex issues that is the hallmark of the left.  These hollow and misdirected arguments are supported on emotion combined with some catchy sound bytes and strung together snippets of out-of-context statistics, and are being sold to a public that is well intended but ultimately doesn’t have any real understanding small business.  But when you really look at the facts, these proposals are exactly the opposite of what small businesses really need to be successful – reduction in the tax rate on net profits reinvested in the company, not massive increases.</p>
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		<title>By: allan cripe, temple texas</title>
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		<dc:creator>allan cripe, temple texas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A fundamental fact that is missing here is this....Obama&#039;s tax plan does not distinguish small business income from small business profit!!!  if you gross 250000 as a small business owner, your actual income after business expenses may be SIGNIFICANTLY less!!!  Tax these folks on top of this never mentioned reality and all of these previously mentioned points are prophetic....THESE PEOPLE KNOW NOTHING ABOUT BUSINESS!! THEY ARE ONLY CONSUMERS!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A fundamental fact that is missing here is this&#8230;.Obama&#039;s tax plan does not distinguish small business income from small business profit!!!  if you gross 250000 as a small business owner, your actual income after business expenses may be SIGNIFICANTLY less!!!  Tax these folks on top of this never mentioned reality and all of these previously mentioned points are prophetic&#8230;.THESE PEOPLE KNOW NOTHING ABOUT BUSINESS!! THEY ARE ONLY CONSUMERS!!</p>
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		<title>By: S.J Hylla Edwardsville, IL</title>
		<link>http://fsbfeatures.blogs.fsb.cnn.com/2008/09/08/who-will-cut-small-business-taxes/#comment-12037</link>
		<dc:creator>S.J Hylla Edwardsville, IL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 14:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DO WE REALLY NEED MORE WELFARE? Why do you think that more taxes will mean more to the average American who struggles day in and day out while the welfare class sits around waiting for their next check. When has an attorney ever done anything other than study the law, quote the law and debate the wonderful aspects of the law. When will people ever wake up and realize that real people need to run the country who have seen the real problems that exist in day to day life. Do people really wonder why there are 25 million illegal immigrants here? They are here to work and replace the 25 million who refuse to work and who call work tracking down their next check. Most immigrants come here for hope not welfare. We ahve allowed this welfare train to get out of control and we will head in the same direction as countries like Cuba if we dont wake up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DO WE REALLY NEED MORE WELFARE? Why do you think that more taxes will mean more to the average American who struggles day in and day out while the welfare class sits around waiting for their next check. When has an attorney ever done anything other than study the law, quote the law and debate the wonderful aspects of the law. When will people ever wake up and realize that real people need to run the country who have seen the real problems that exist in day to day life. Do people really wonder why there are 25 million illegal immigrants here? They are here to work and replace the 25 million who refuse to work and who call work tracking down their next check. Most immigrants come here for hope not welfare. We ahve allowed this welfare train to get out of control and we will head in the same direction as countries like Cuba if we dont wake up.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie, Great Falls, MT</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julie, Great Falls, MT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 18:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone can continue to &quot;theorize&quot; what will or will not happen when this nation picks a new president next week. I will tell you the reality of what is happening THIS week.  Our small business that employs 48 people has stopped all unnecessary spending, cancelled business trips, and have decided not to buy those 3 new trucks our sales guys desperately need.  What do that mean to ALL of YOU out there? That means we are NOT spending money on airfare, hotels, restaraunts, cab rides, tips for service workers,and commission for that car salesman. We cancelled our customer Christmas baskets so we are not buying from the lady that makes that awesome fudge downtown. The reality is:  If the cost of doing business goes up (increased taxes) we either raise our prices or cut spending.  EITHER way it affects all of you out there.  IT&#039;S THE GREAT CIRCLE OF BUSINESS LIFE.  I know other businesses are following suit and tightening up for the uncertain future.  Good Luck to all of us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone can continue to &#034;theorize&#034; what will or will not happen when this nation picks a new president next week. I will tell you the reality of what is happening THIS week.  Our small business that employs 48 people has stopped all unnecessary spending, cancelled business trips, and have decided not to buy those 3 new trucks our sales guys desperately need.  What do that mean to ALL of YOU out there? That means we are NOT spending money on airfare, hotels, restaraunts, cab rides, tips for service workers,and commission for that car salesman. We cancelled our customer Christmas baskets so we are not buying from the lady that makes that awesome fudge downtown. The reality is:  If the cost of doing business goes up (increased taxes) we either raise our prices or cut spending.  EITHER way it affects all of you out there.  IT&#039;S THE GREAT CIRCLE OF BUSINESS LIFE.  I know other businesses are following suit and tightening up for the uncertain future.  Good Luck to all of us.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Javeline, Pompano Beach, FL</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Javeline, Pompano Beach, FL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 15:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe The Plumber needs a lot more help then any of the two presidential candidates.  The majority of contractors in America run their business on pen, paper, napkin and drywall (and I am not kidding).  Joe The Plumber should worry more about how to run the basics of his business using the Internet and mobile solutions so that he can get more jobs, manage them more efficiently and connect to homeowners to get paid quicker.  He will not be thinking about taxes when he is making more money and taking business away from others.  Send him to www.MyOnlineToolbox.com for the answer and do not wait on the government for what can be done today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe The Plumber needs a lot more help then any of the two presidential candidates.  The majority of contractors in America run their business on pen, paper, napkin and drywall (and I am not kidding).  Joe The Plumber should worry more about how to run the basics of his business using the Internet and mobile solutions so that he can get more jobs, manage them more efficiently and connect to homeowners to get paid quicker.  He will not be thinking about taxes when he is making more money and taking business away from others.  Send him to <a href="http://www.MyOnlineToolbox.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.MyOnlineToolbox.com</a> for the answer and do not wait on the government for what can be done today.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 11:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cheryl  - if obama gets elected, then enjoy your coming business failure.           

Your business is not supported by poor clients, it is the rich kids and I know my daughter will not be going to gym and the cheerleading will be reduced if obama tax policies affect my company             

I will lay off some people and look to economize, cuz I am no longer working for the &quot;spread the wealth&quot; crew       

This will be the sames as in the clinton years affected me and my company. I was broke n 2004-2005, back in 2002 and starting taking hits in late 2007 after the democrats took over congress and started the credit freeze - the low income credit fiasco has been going on since 7/07. The media just caught up and obama needed cover for his radical buddies and total lack of experience.          

Good luck on your continued troubles.           

I hope you will remember your rosy predictions when you start blaming obama 2-4 years hence</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheryl  &#8211; if obama gets elected, then enjoy your coming business failure.           </p>
<p>Your business is not supported by poor clients, it is the rich kids and I know my daughter will not be going to gym and the cheerleading will be reduced if obama tax policies affect my company             </p>
<p>I will lay off some people and look to economize, cuz I am no longer working for the &#034;spread the wealth&#034; crew       </p>
<p>This will be the sames as in the clinton years affected me and my company. I was broke n 2004-2005, back in 2002 and starting taking hits in late 2007 after the democrats took over congress and started the credit freeze &#8211; the low income credit fiasco has been going on since 7/07. The media just caught up and obama needed cover for his radical buddies and total lack of experience.          </p>
<p>Good luck on your continued troubles.           </p>
<p>I hope you will remember your rosy predictions when you start blaming obama 2-4 years hence</p>
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